Comments on: My Mom Had an Abortion http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/ Mathematics, liberal politics, and rants about the news of the day Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:22:13 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alphonsus http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-105576 Alphonsus Tue, 26 May 2009 14:52:42 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-105576 "It took me some time to figure out what a non-spontaneous abortion was, but when I did, I had an “Oh, well” reaction to it. Why wouldn’t I? 58% of concepti fail by the end of the first week of pregnancy. The thousand times enlarged pictures of fetuses were cute, but so were pictures of other parts of the human body, including resident bacteria. Moral status isn’t based on cuteness." I don't see the moral relevance of a high rate of miscarriages (the percentage you cite is somewhat higher that the 30% figure that I've heard). 100& of human beings die, but that doesn't make murder any less bad. “It took me some time to figure out what a non-spontaneous abortion was, but when I did, I had an “Oh, well” reaction to it. Why wouldn’t I? 58% of concepti fail by the end of the first week of pregnancy. The thousand times enlarged pictures of fetuses were cute, but so were pictures of other parts of the human body, including resident bacteria. Moral status isn’t based on cuteness.”

I don’t see the moral relevance of a high rate of miscarriages (the percentage you cite is somewhat higher that the 30% figure that I’ve heard). 100& of human beings die, but that doesn’t make murder any less bad.

]]> By: Jamie http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-103994 Jamie Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:12:18 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-103994 Most women who had an abortion suffer from anxiety and depression. There are also long term risks to a womans health. They have found a link to breast cancer as well. Most women who had an abortion suffer from anxiety and depression. There are also long term risks to a womans health. They have found a link to breast cancer as well.

]]> By: Jamie http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-103993 Jamie Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:09:50 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-103993 I was pregnant out of wedlock and pretty upset about it. We lost the baby to miscarriage and I was devastated. Most woman end up feeling the same way after they lose their baby. I was pregnant out of wedlock and pretty upset about it. We lost the baby to miscarriage and I was devastated. Most woman end up feeling the same way after they lose their baby.

]]> By: Jamie http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-103992 Jamie Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:04:32 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-103992 I stumbled upon this website as I was researching tubal reversal doctors. I would invite all of you who feel that it is a choice wether or not to murder the most innocent of all creation to watch the video The Silent Scream and then tell me how you feel about choice. This video ia a first trimester abortion. Does anyone know that during a third trimester abortion (the baby can survive seperate from their mom at this point) that the baby is delivered feet first and scissors are stuck in the babys skull and the brains are sucked out? My heart aches as I write this. Children are little gifts from heaven. We have four and we want more, many more. Those babies that were aborted are in heaven. I grew up with a mom who taught me at an early age how precious life is and that it is a gift. We live in a selfish world. Has anyone ever heard of adoption? How would you like to have scissors stuck in the back of your skull and your brains sucked out with no pain meds? By the way, 2nd trimester abortions are performed by dismembering the baby's arms and legs . I would gladly put my health at risk to save my baby. The world doesn't revolve around us. As to the mother who said she was glad she had an abortion because she wouldn't have had her son, what about the baby she killed? By the way plan B is abortion and Dr. Dobson knows it is and that is why he doesn't approve of it. Another note when a woman sees her baby, the baby is wanted. There are so many couples that would love to adopt these "unwanted" babies. I stumbled upon this website as I was researching tubal reversal doctors. I would invite all of you who feel that it is a choice wether or not to murder the most innocent of all creation to watch the video The Silent Scream and then tell me how you feel about choice. This video ia a first trimester abortion. Does anyone know that during a third trimester abortion (the baby can survive seperate from their mom at this point) that the baby is delivered feet first and scissors are stuck in the babys skull and the brains are sucked out? My heart aches as I write this. Children are little gifts from heaven. We have four and we want more, many more. Those babies that were aborted are in heaven. I grew up with a mom who taught me at an early age how precious life is and that it is a gift. We live in a selfish world. Has anyone ever heard of adoption? How would you like to have scissors stuck in the back of your skull and your brains sucked out with no pain meds? By the way, 2nd trimester abortions are performed by dismembering the baby’s arms and legs . I would gladly put my health at risk to save my baby. The world doesn’t revolve around us. As to the mother who said she was glad she had an abortion because she wouldn’t have had her son, what about the baby she killed? By the way plan B is abortion and Dr. Dobson knows it is and that is why he doesn’t approve of it. Another note when a woman sees her baby, the baby is wanted. There are so many couples that would love to adopt these “unwanted” babies.

]]> By: robin http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-8684 robin Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:25:10 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-8684 hey mi nammis robin morris a this well help me out a lot of this papre that im doin hahah lol hey mi nammis robin morris a this well help me out a lot of this papre that im doin hahah lol

]]> By: Roy http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6387 Roy Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:13:45 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6387 SLC: While I'm not Mister Levy, I feel compelled to respond "So what?" That's the beauty of being pro-choice. It was his mother's choice whether to give birth or terminate the pregnancy. She clearly chose to give birth to Alon, or, as you point out, he wouldn't be here today. That was her <i>choice</i>. Pointing out that any particular person <i>could</i> have been aborted is meaningless- what are we to take away from that, other than "That's awesome- I was actually <i>wanted!</i>" SLC: While I’m not Mister Levy, I feel compelled to respond “So what?”

That’s the beauty of being pro-choice. It was his mother’s choice whether to give birth or terminate the pregnancy. She clearly chose to give birth to Alon, or, as you point out, he wouldn’t be here today.
That was her choice.

Pointing out that any particular person could have been aborted is meaningless- what are we to take away from that, other than “That’s awesome- I was actually wanted!“

]]> By: Alon Levy http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6278 Alon Levy Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:24:27 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6278 That's not so different from what some Protestant fundamentalists think. James Dobson's official position is that any form of birth control that does not interfere with a conceptus is acceptable. In practice, Focus on the Family opposes making Plan B available over the counter, but the justification isn't that it kills babies but that it encourages promiscuity. That’s not so different from what some Protestant fundamentalists think. James Dobson’s official position is that any form of birth control that does not interfere with a conceptus is acceptable. In practice, Focus on the Family opposes making Plan B available over the counter, but the justification isn’t that it kills babies but that it encourages promiscuity.

]]> By: SLC http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6277 SLC Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:23:14 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6277 Although I am generally pro-choice, I should point out to Mr. Levy that if his mother had chosen to have an abortion when he was in utero, he wouldn't be here today. Although I am generally pro-choice, I should point out to Mr. Levy that if his mother had chosen to have an abortion when he was in utero, he wouldn’t be here today.

]]> By: Bruce http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6276 Bruce Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:09:39 +0000 http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com/2007/01/22/my-mom-had-an-abortion/#comment-6276 What I have found interesting is how the debate has played out in the Eastern Orthodox churches. While there is considerable debate on the matter, the emerging consensus there is that non-abortifacient means of birth control are permitted in specific circumstances if the marriage as a whole is receptive to children. The dynamics of Orthodoxy on such matters are different from those of the Roman Church, which has a different ecclesiology and heritage to protect, seemingly at very high costs. If every Catholic regularly using prohibited birth control withdrew from the Church and stopped tithing/giving offering, almost every diocese in the U.S. Church at least would go bankrupt in maybe 90 days. What I have found interesting is how the debate has played out in the Eastern Orthodox churches. While there is considerable debate on the matter, the emerging consensus there is that non-abortifacient means of birth control are permitted in specific circumstances if the marriage as a whole is receptive to children. The dynamics of Orthodoxy on such matters are different from those of the Roman Church, which has a different ecclesiology and heritage to protect, seemingly at very high costs.

If every Catholic regularly using prohibited birth control withdrew from the Church and stopped tithing/giving offering, almost every diocese in the U.S. Church at least would go bankrupt in maybe 90 days.

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