There Exist Anti-Abortion Terrorists; Therefore, All Christians are Murderers

On Winds of Change, Joe Katzman is trying to show that he’s even more extreme than Sam Harris by writing about a bunch of Jihadists in Britain who plotted to behead a Muslim serving in the British Army. Personally I would give kudos to the British security services and rant about British cultural policy, but Katzman has another comment:

Such nice people. Maybe if we treated them better and offed the Jews as a show of good faith, they’d be kind to us….

Katzman’s post’s title is “Religion of Submission Watch,” which takes me back to when I read about Harris’s positively kooky views on torture and the War on Terror.

There exist anti-abortion terrorists, but the only people who conclude that all Christians are murderers are the sort of extremists who complain that PZ Myers is too soft on religion. There exist settlers in the West Bank who abuse and kill Palestinian civilians, but the only people who generalize from them to Jews are recognizably anti-Semitic. And there exist mobs of Hindu extremists who burn Muslim slums in India, but the only people who call Hinduism the religion of live burning are Muslim terrorists in South Asia.

11 Responses to There Exist Anti-Abortion Terrorists; Therefore, All Christians are Murderers

  1. Ran Halprin says:

    The Quran calls for killing of non-Muslims. Any Muslim who does not go against this and demands that the religious leaders come out straightforward and say that this should no longer be followed – should not be allowed into western countries.

    Multiculturalism and freedom of speech end where murder begins.

  2. Alon Levy says:

    The Bible says, “Happy is the man who dashes babies against rocks.” Any Jew and Christian who does not go against this and demands that the religious leaders come out straightforward and say this should no longer be followed should be expelled from Western countries.

  3. Lynet says:

    Really?

    If you’re serious, then I don’t doubt your word, but can I have chapter and verse to look up the context?

    If not, ‘scuse my literalism :-)

  4. Alon Levy says:

    Psalms 137:9.

    In addition, Joshua includes the story of Jericho, which the Israelis burn to the ground and slaughter all the inhabitants of excluding Rahab and her family.

  5. Ran Halprin says:

    “Any Jew and Christian who does not go against this and demands that the religious leaders come out straightforward and say this should no longer be followed should be expelled from Western countries.”

    Exactly – I know of no Jewish or Christian leaders who call for murder of innocent people. Those who do are arrested by the authorities (at least in Israel and the US, respectively). None the less, Muslim leaders are allowed to call for murder of non Muslims, but are no arrested nor thrown out of their hosting countries.

  6. Alon Levy says:

    Indeed, the US threw Pat Robertson and Ann Coulter in jail as soon as they made eliminationist comments.

  7. Ran Halprin says:

    Sorry, I spent five minutes in http://www.patrobertson.com/ and another two at http://www.anncoulter.com/ trying to find these calls for mass murder of civilians based on religious or racial affiliation, and couldn’t. Any direct link?

  8. Alon Levy says:

    “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war” ~Ann Coulter.

    “[Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent” ~Ann Coulter.

    “My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building” ~Ann Coulter.

    “If I could just get a nuclear device inside Foggy Bottom, I think that’s the answer” ~Pat Robertson.

    “You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if [President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela] thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don’t think any oil shipments will stop. [...] We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with” ~Pat Robertson.

    All of these come from Wikiquote.

  9. Ran Halprin says:

    All of these are either vicious sarcasm, or at worst a suggestion of _policy_. I see no danger of a fanatic US religious follower of their’s attempting by himself to invade Afghanistan, conquer Canada or assassinate Chavez… It’s a totally different case when a Muslim religious leader says “you must go out and kill the infidels, those who betray Islam” etc.

  10. Alon Levy says:

    Ran, the US has a long history of killing off inconvenient leaders. The CIA-supported coup in Chile resulted in Allende’s death, after all.

    And “vicious sarcasm” doesn’t quite cut it when you’re rooting for the militia movement.

  11. Behzad Nikzad says:

    I came to read about Infinite Gaois Theory.

    I am impressed by your intelligence, more so with your patience.

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